Why the trial of Sebastian and Atif was made bad and wrong?

burns-and-rafay

I have watched the tv documentary series by Netflix yesterday night: The Confession Tapes, True East Part 1 and Part 2.

That was very good documentary. It showed how bad a judgment can be.

The episodes summery and event are like that:

The Confession Tapes, a chilling new Netflix true crime documentary series, debuted on the streaming service September 8, and the first two episodes take up the shocking case of Sebastian Burns (pictured above right) and Atif Rafay (above left), two Canadian teenagers who were accused and eventually convicted of the brutal and shocking murders of Rafay’s parents and sister in Bellevue, Washington, on July 13, 1994.

The two friends, now in their early 40s, have been serving three consecutive life terms each, with no possibility of parole, since their convictions in 2004 — a decade after the crimes. In The Confession Tapes, documentary director Kelly Loudenberg makes a compelling case that Burns and Rafay are innocent of the horrifying murders.

But if they didn’t do it, why did Burns and Rafay confess, apparently in great detail, to the crimes? Who would confess to a crime — particularly a gruesome triple murder — that he did not commit?

False confessions are the theme of the entire Confession Tapes series, with each episode documenting a case in which confessions were obtained by police using questionable and even blatantly deceptive methods — calling into doubt the guilt of the suspects who often end up convicted and sentenced on the basis of their confessions alone.

The surprising conclusion viewers may draw from the series is that false confessions are much more common than generally believed. In the case of Burns and Rafay, their confessions were elicited by undercover detectives from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) — Canada’s equivalent of the United States FBI — using a controversial technique known as “Mr. Big,” a method that was and remains illegal in the United States.

The undercover investigators posed as Mafia mobsters, attempting to recruit the two desperate and naive young men — whose lives had already been effectively ruined by the murder accusations — into their enterprise. But the phony mobsters told Burns and Rafay that first, they needed to know everything about their involvement in the murders.

According to Innocence Project expert Ken Klonsky, who has taken up the Burns and Rafay case, Burns — who was approached first — denied repeatedly that he was in any way involved with the savage triple murder.

“Their confessions to the RCMP mobsters took many months of heavy handed interviews to obtain,” Klonsky wrote in a blog post about the case.

“No juror was shown video evidence of Sebastian’s constant denials that he had anything to do with the crime, while the RCMP has disposed of almost the entire taped interrogation. What remains are the sessions that implicate Burns and Rafay.”

Burns finally “confessed” to the men he believed were mobsters, constructing a story from what he had absorbed from news media accounts of the killings, according to Klonsky. Rafay mainly echoed his friend’s “confessions.”

According to Klonsky, outside of the supposed confessions, “no hard or scientifically gathered evidence ties (Burns and Rafay) to the crime.” Despite the fact that Rafay’s family members were killed in extraordinarily violent fashion — the killer mercilessly bludgeoning the three to death with a baseball bat — no traces of blood or other evidence of the crime were found on either suspect despite five days of forensic testing.

“That seemed completely convincing – in a way that would only be convincing to an 18-year-old kid.”

In addition to the lack of physical evidence against them, Rafay and Burns had an apparently unshakeable alibi. They were seen and positively identified watching a movie at a Bellevue theater at 10 p.m. on the night of the murders. But neighbors specifically recalled hearing loud thumping noises from inside the Rafay home at 9:50 p.m., ruling out the presence of the two then-teens at the site as the killings were taking place, as the theater was too far from the Rafay home to be reached in 10 minutes flat — even assuming that Rafay and Burns did not stop to thoroughly cleanse themselves of any blood evidence.

But prosecutors simply called into question the neighbors’ memories of the time. In fact, the evidence against them was so inconclusive, that it took investigators in Washington six months to name Burns and Rafay as suspects in the murders.

quotes from:

Jonathan Vankin article

During the gathering of the evidence and during the judgements I think there was important evidence (perhaps consciously not considered) that was missed.

In the days following the murders the Bellevue Police Department received three tips through other law enforcement agencies: one from Constable Gelinas with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), one from an FBI informant, and one from the Intelligence Division of the Seattle Police. The confidential RCMP informant told Constable Gelinas of a man who had been offered a $20,000 contract to kill an East Indian family that had previously lived in Vancouver, Canada and had moved to Bellevue, Washington. The informant also told Gelinas that he heard this information two days before the murders were committed. Officer Gelinas contacted Bellevue investigators Robert Thompson and Jeff Gomes—the lead investigators on the Rafay murders—and communicated the information to them. The Bellevue investigators traveled to Vancouver and knocked on this man’s door twice. He was either not home or was not answering the door. The Bellevue Police returned to the United States without making contact. About five days after the homicides, the Bellevue Police Department received a call from the FBI advising that one of their informants was coming to provide information about the murder of the Rafay family. The FBI Informant told Detective Gomes of the Bellevue Police that a militant Islamic faction said that Dr. Tariq Rafay should die because of his beliefs and teachings about the Koran. The FBI informant also said that several days after the homicides a member of this militant Islamic faction came to his house and was worried that the FBI informant had seen a baseball bat that he and some other men were carrying around in their car. Because of this, the FBI Informant believed the murder weapon was a baseball bat, which in fact it was. With this information, the Bellevue investigators learned that the FBI informant knew the identity of the murder weapon before this information was made public. The informant provided names, addresses, and phone numbers to the police. However, Bellevue investigators never followed up on these leads. The Seattle Police Intelligence Division called the Bellevue Police Department and told them they had information that al-Fuqra, a radical and militant organization, that may have been involved in these homicides. However, the Bellevue police did not follow up on this information either. They did not question any members of the Islamic community in Bellevue to find out if Dr. Rafay had conflicts with Muslims in the area.

quotes from:

Rafay- Burns Appeal

I have searched this radical and militant organization (I think they do have terrorist organization features) called Al-Fuqra.

FROM wikipeida:

Jamaat ul-Fuqraa’ (alternatively Jamaat al-Fuqraa’) “Community of the Impoverished”) is an organization of mostly African-American Muslims based in Pakistan and the United States. Some of the approximately 3000 members have planned various acts of violence, often directed at rival factions.Two Al-Fuqra members were convicted of conspiring to murder Rashad Khalifa in 1990, and others are alleged to have assassinated Ahmadiyya leader Mozaffar Ahmad in 1983.

Activities

Although various members have been suspected of assassinations and other acts of terror perpetrated in the 1980s and later,and some members having been charged with conspiracy to commit first degree murder and other crimes, ul-Fuqra itself is not listed as a terrorist group by the US or the EU. It was included in a list of terrorist organizations in Patterns of Global Terrorism, a 1999 report by the U.S. State Department.

The group has been banned in Pakistan. Jamaat Al Fuqra was also involved in the planned bombing of a Hindu temple in Toronto, Canada in 1991.
Hotel Rajneesh bombing.

On July 29, 1983, Stephen Paul Paster, an al-Fuqra member, set off a bomb at the Hotel Rajneesh, a hotel in Portland, Oregon. This hotel, located at SW 11th Avenue and Main Street, was owned by the Rajneesh religious group and featured the Zorba the Buddha nightclub. Paster had several bombs and homemade napalm in his room, but one of the bombs went off in his hands while he was placing the bombs in the midst of the napalm.

Paster was almost immediately arrested after the bombs went off, as he was one of only two people injured in the explosion, which took place at 1:23 a.m. After the hotel was evacuated two other explosions occurred at 3 a.m. Paster was charged with arson due to the fire which resulted from the explosions.Paster posted $20,000 bail, but fled Oregon and was not apprehended until June 1984 in Englewood, Colorado. In November 1985, Paster was sentenced to 20 years in prison by a Multnomah County circuit judge,but was released after serving four years.

Most interesting news about Al-fuqra:

Pre 9/11 Massive Terror Plot Targetting 4,500 Hindus and Sikhs in Toronto Forgotten

Toronto’s (Canada’s largest city) terror plot of 1991 (pre September 11) has been forgotten and become a lost memory to Canadians.

The terror plot was planned by 5 Afro-Caribbean Muslims who were followers of Jamaat Al Fuqra, a Pakistani movement. They were acquitted of planning to kill 4,500 people within two buildings in Toronto.  The attacks were to be done one after the other. At the time of the attack, it was seen as an isolated case but now after a series of planned attacks in Ottawa, Montreal, and Toronto it has been associated with a series of attacks by Islamist terrorists. Just two years before the first World Trade Centre bombing, and a decade before the 9/11 attacks Toronto was the potential terror plot destination of North America where thousands of people would have died had the terrorists not been on the radar beforehand.

The terror plot was set to blow out during the Hindu festival of Diwali at two separate locations one after the other.  The first spot was the India Centre cinema on Gerrard Street with a 500 people capacity (most commonly occupied by Sikhs and Hindus) and the second spot was the Vishnu Hindu Temple, which has a capacity of 4000 (occupied by Hindus of mostly Indian and Caribbean descent) in Richmond Hill, Ontario.

Glenn Neville Ford, a Trinidadian convert to Islam who immigrated to Canada in the mid-1970’s is the one who started a group called the Jamaat Al Fuqra which was led by a Pakistani cleric named Sheik Mubarik Ali Gilani.

Gilani was the same man that Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reporter Daniel Pearl was supposed to meet when he was kidnapped and killed in 2002.

Ford coupled with another Torontonian from Trinidad named Max Lon Fongenie and both of them together bought a settlement land on Algonquin Park at Combermere naming it Hasanville (a small settlement for only muslim families). That same summer, the regular visitors to Hasanville where men by the name of Tyrone Cole, Robert Wesley and Caba Jose Harris—all converts to Islam, from Texas.  Police stated that together they started a plan of destruction in Toronto.

In 1991, On October 3rd, Ford and the Texans attempted to enter the US through the Niagara borders where the security at the border found a sheet of paper in their vehicle stating “dying as a soldier of Allah,” as well as floor plans and maps to the cinema and temple. One of the documents in the car even led police to Brooklyn where they found a room full of guns, weapons and 2000 rounds of ammunition.  According to police the four travellers were going to Brooklyn to pick up the ammunition.

8 men were accused. 1 was quickly dismissed. Fongenie escaped to Pakistan. A Brooklyn man pleaded guilty to weapons offences. Ford, the three Texans and another Toronto man, Khidr Ali, were sent to trial. The three Texans were kept in jail until 2006, for twelve years, after which they were freed. They were convicted for being members of a terrorist movement and for conspiring to commit mischief endangering life.

news at by , chakranews

There are the news like that about Al-fuqra action at Toronto. It has always been said that Al-fuqra action was likely to be a preliminary experiment of 9/11.

Let’s turn back to the title question:

“Why the trial of Sebastian and Atif was made bad and wrong?”

If the whole process of judging of Sebastian and Atif, has been experienced as documented, then perhaps we should add a second additional question.

“If two 18-year-olds are the victims of this case, who does take benefit by protecting the real criminals?”

My opinion almost there is CIA behind of every islamic terrorist or radical militant organization on this planet. Of course, it’s not an empty belief of mine. It fulls with facts. Here an article about these facts: Jihad and Jihadists: So where do they come from?

In this case, it seems that the links of an organization, which is highly likely to be persuasive and evident, have been seriously and consciously overlooked. And the most striking feature of this organization is the possibility of making a preliminary experiment of horrific 9/11. Who was behind and staged 9/11?

here some writings-posts about it:

Basic Physics Experiments Prove 9 11 was an Inside Job

Why US Government And Saudi Arabia Don’t Want Americans Knowing The Truth About 9/11

Sixteen More Convincing Reasons to Question 9/11

9/11: The Whole Rotten Saga & the Most Ineffective Cover-Up Ever…

Untold History of the US – Bush and Obama Age of Terror

If all the judgement proceedings continued in the same way as Netflix documented, then perhaps it is time to ask why the actual offenders are protected. And if the actual offenders are this organization of unexamined evidences, then is it not clear who protects them?

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Or maybe all these are the conspiracy theories in my extraterrestrial mind, who knows?

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ps: By the way, the judge of the case of Rafay and Burns seemeed like Hollywood actor. What kind of speech of his decision statement at the final! He seemed that he acted towards the cameras, haha!

for those who want to watch the series, here it is the link for online watching:

https://watch-series.co/series/the-confession-tapes-season-01/season

 

 

 

 

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2 thoughts on “Why the trial of Sebastian and Atif was made bad and wrong?

  1. I have Netflix, and so I have this on my watch list. Maybe I’ll watch it this weekend.

    On 9-11, 60% or more of Americans no longer believe the official story by the government. And that number keeps growing. And up to 73% no longer have any faith in the mainstream media, especially among the younger generations.

    There is an awakening here, it just isn’t happening as fast as I would like it to be.

    And there is no justice in America, for those of us born here and who have no wealth or political power, nor for others around the world, and there never has been. Like wealth and power, justice is only for the capitalist elite. And I know this in a very personal way, since I had a close friend who was railroaded by this system and almost died in prison.

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    • In fact, the state managers ignore the most important fact everywhere in the world: if there is no justice, the country would destroy.

      If the ways to search of the rights are blocked or clogged, this will remove the people’s trust and destroy a country into insecurity. A chaotic atmosphere arises, and it is not a problem can be solved with the police state, which almost all states want to create against this environment. Those who work in the justice system and/or those who create obstacles in this system will be first charged if they do not have a state in their hands in some day.

      And it would be great and I would be glad if you watch and comment what do you think about Burns and Rafay judgement after you have watched, my Earthling friend. Maybe I am totaly or partly wrong about it. Your opinion would helping me.

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